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How low will you go? (pay)

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Posted about 1 month ago

 

OK... so if your feeling like I'm feeling... you applied to over 140 jobs (literaly) and you've had MAYBE (1) interview. You feel you have a BANGUP resume and cover letter (all things considered) and you STILL can't land a interview/job (that your comfortable with). ALL the jobs you have been applying for have been over 30K (college bills are coming in soon, and I know plenty of schmoes with no degrees making around 40k a year). Your starting to feel desperate now. The question is HOW LOW WILL YOU GO?


I recently passed up (3) job opportunities. One was a part time "assistant director" at a elderyly place paying $10/hour.


The second was a temp to perm paying $12/hour in a sales position, but the commute would have been rough... but MAYBE bareable.


The third was THE PERFECT POSITION and I would have boosted my resume experience by 200%, but it was $10/hour and a 1 hour train ride, accompanied by a 40minute walk (winter is coming folks.


At what point would you cut your losses and apply at McDonalds? Any of you guys starting to lower your expectations? How low have they gone?


I live in RI but have started applying in ATL, TAMPA & SAN DIEGO! Who is comin with?

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Rated: +1 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Lets be realistic here. I am a single mother of one and I do not feel that I am too good to work at McDonalds. If the opportunity is available and with benefits I am going  to "Have it my way". Money has no eyes and nobody really cares what way you make it as long as if it is honest and clean. I have work in the restaurant industry not McDonalds but, nothing is wrong with paying your bills. I live in Killeen, Texas which is where the biggest Army base is located in the world and I have not ever had a problem getting a job there. It is a military town so people are always hiring and no it may not be your dream job but, guess what it put food in my daughter mouth, clothes on her back, and it keeps a roof over her head. That is what important to me. You have to remember sometimes you have to crawl before you walk. Everybody wasn't born with a silver spoon in there mouth so, make the money and don't be ashamed  to let it make you. Take time to remember what is important in life and remember that everything isn't always going to go your way. It takes time and patience and with both create success. Very good topic

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Rate This | Posted about 1 month ago

 

I am having the same trouble.  All I can think about are the women from my past jobs and how they drove my crazy if you understand what I mean.  I can not go over it again. But they will never leave my thought process. 

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Rated: -1 | Posted 29 days ago

 

Some of us schmoes worked our way up to the 40k and above, I for personal reasons had to quit college and go to work full time. I have 14 years experience in my field, along with those years were 70hr work weeks and days with out seeing my children to even make it to the 40k. region, I am now closer to the 50k but I have had to sacrifice a lot to even get to this point.  It also took my 5 years to pay back my student loans. My point is US Schmoes did not get our positions handed to us, we had to work our way up like everyone else regardless of a degree. You have a degree, but do you have any actual knowledge in your field. No matter what you have to start at the bottom and prove your abilities, just because of a degree does not make you better then anyone else. You are not getting the positions becasue your ego is getting in the way!

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Rate This | Posted 29 days ago

 

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Some of us schmoes worked our way up to the 40k and above, I for personal reasons had to quit college and go to work full time. I have 14 years experience in my field, along with those years were 70hr work weeks and days with out seeing my children to even make it to the 40k. region, I am now closer to the 50k but I have had to sacrifice a lot to even get to this point.  It also took my 5 years to pay back my student loans. My point is US Schmoes did not get our positions handed to us, we had to work our way up like everyone else regardless of a degree. You have a degree, but do you have any actual knowledge in your field. No matter what you have to start at the bottom and prove your abilities, just because of a degree does not make you better then anyone else. You are not getting the positions because your ego is getting in the way!


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Rate This | Posted 29 days ago

 

Don't bother with Tampa! I live here and just got laid off Friday. The job market is miserable and I know I'll have to take a paycut but McD's will be a last resort only because I could never make it minimum wage and also because that big of a drop in pay will kill my social security which I only a few years away from. I got a nice severance package and am eligible for unemployment so I'm hoping this will turn around some before I have to go back to the two-job possibility. Getting too old for that.

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Rated: +1 | Posted 29 days ago

 

I, too, am getting to the point where ANYTHING TO PAY THE BILLS will be great.  I'm a recent graduate from the community college where I live, and I have 2 A.A.S. degrees.  I might as well not have them because every IT job I've applied to wants either a BS degree or 3 to 5 years experience, which I have neither of.  I'm hoping that someone will give me a chance to prove myself and be willing to help me grow in the field, but for now, I'm going back to pursue my BS in Computer Science and I'm willing to take the first thing smokin' as far as a job.  My family isn't getting any less hungry, so I gotta find a way to put something on the table.  There's a possibility of a job for me at Target and a part-time gig at a local music store.  If I can swing it, I might do both of them, at least for the holiday season so that we can have some extra Christmas money.  But like another poster said, make the money and don't be ashamed to step down for a while.  Eventually, we will all be able to get where we're trying to go as long as we keep working at it.


 

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Rate This | Posted 29 days ago

 

We need to remember that this recession while it seems eternal is actually temporary.  It may not be short, but it is certainly not permanent.  Keep gaining experience in any way you can, intern, volunteer, take extra classes, get certificates and then take the highest paying "whatever" job you can to pay the bills while you wait out the storm.

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Rate This | Posted 28 days ago

 

 I'm feeling the heat as well. Luckily I have a bit longer before my bills start coming in, but feeling the heat nonetheless. 


I was actually told I was "overqualified" to work at the famous golden arches last summer. But according to everyone else, I'm not qualified for anything above flipping burgers (????). 


I have a bachelor's degree, a stellar resume, a few great references and great experience. All in a variety of areas. I'm starting to think its something else they don't like...or they just want to keep their options open. This sounds like a bad relationship!

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Rate This | Posted 28 days ago

 

I graduated 1.5 years ago with a Bachelor's of Science in Biochemistry from my state's flagship university. I have submitted my resume\applied to over 700 positions in my field nationwide. Guess how many interviews? Three. Yes, unfortunately, I'm 100% serious. And I have an outstanding resume with excellent academic, research, and extracurricular achievements. I have applied to McDonalds and similar restaurants, hotels as a housecleaner, rental shops as a mover, and other mimimum wage jobs, I get the same response... "you're overqualified. you'll leave us as soon as you find a career in your field." I apply to positions in my field, also the same response... "you don't have experience. our "entry level" positions require at least two years experience in a relevant field." Seeing as how I waited tables to put myself through college, and seeing as how I just graduated, I don't exactly have experience. I'm either overqualified or underqualified and unable to find middle ground.

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Rate This | Posted 28 days ago

 

 


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it is really tough out there I have gobbs of experience in accounting and management I have been looking since August 1 Interview with a recruiter who then never calls back to say if the position is filled I am sick of rude inconsiderate people that granted may be overworked, but PLEASE DO NOT tell someone you will let them know next week and then not call or reply to calls or emails


Put yourself in the place of the thousands of people ot here in no job land and see how you would like to treated like you don't count.


 

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Rate This | Posted 18 days ago

 

The part I don't understand is do employers think that they can really treat people this way? Don't tell me that you have to balance books when you expect someone to have a degree, speak two languages, program a PC in the five most popular internet languages, have your own tools and truck, can work nights and weekends for 35K a year. That's just unconscionable. I foresee a new kind of discrimination coming out of this economy.


Don't tell me "if you don't like it don't take it". I was raised to be responsible, pay your debts, and do your best. Maybe I was unclear on all of the conditional phrasing but I don't remember being told to work myself out of a house and future. I WANT to raise my family and maybe retire someday with some money. I didn't think that was so unreasonable. Treat me with the respect you want to recieve.

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Rate This | Posted 18 days ago

 

Yes, they do think they can treat people this way, they are looking at the bottom line not at feelings.... unforutnately.

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Rate This | Posted 17 days ago

 

Well, seeing as I make $0 and I'm 200 in the hole every month and I can't get unemployment because I moved across a state line after they sent my job to the Philippines... I'm ready to scrub toilets for a penny an hour with my two Bachelor's degrees.  This is stupid.

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Rate This | Posted 16 days ago

 

It's extremely hard to get a job right now... I will be graduating with a Bachelor's degree in December, and have about 2-3 years experience in my field, but places are always looking for someone with "more experience."  I feel that just because someone has experience it doesn't necessarily make them a good worker! I feel that with ability to learn quickly and willingness to work hard, I could easily make up for lack of experience with persistence and hopeful attitude. 


 


I plan on doing anything until I can find a job! I might have to get a job working at a department store for a while, but I'm willing to do anything to bring in some kind of income until I can land my dream job... Even if I have to work for 9-10 dollars an hour : / 

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Rate This | Posted 15 days ago

 

I agree with all those who does not have a degree and are making away more over the 40k per year and yes they have worked the way up to get there and I think that is nothing wrong there most employers all they care is that if you can get that job done and if you done it before.


For those with degrees is very much the same as for those with out it when it comes to experience on their fields, the employer does care if you went to school and payed your dues but at the same he wants to know if you can do the job and if you have done it before, therefore that's were experience has to be build, yet the employer might pay a little bit more with degree but yet they have to start from the bottom.


I have a degree and i thought i could just land the perfect job once I was out of school, but guess what I crashed into the wall and found out that I had to start from entry level making just enough to pay rent, so ok now I/m in the market again looking for IT job but guess what at least now i have the 3-5 year experience and  trust me on this one what you learn in school is nothing compared of what you learn in real life. so that puts me right on the question of how low whould I go to land a job. I first answer the employers questions and they i describe what im capable of and what my duties were before and you have to be (HONEST) thiw way at least the employer knows you know your place and $$ that you're going to ask is at least right, but now at least you can only lower your self may be1-3 dollars, only and you don;t have to back to entry level again.


 


Yet my respect to all those with out degree.

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Rate This | Posted 15 days ago

 


Would you go below 30K?


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Rate This | Posted 15 days ago

 

 I would not rush into jobs which are beneath your level of either qualifications or experience. You have to have some patience to find a good position. If you have applied to many jobs but received few interviews, then question your resume and your approach - use a close and wise friend to review your resume and which jobs you are applying for.


If, due to pressing financial need, you are forced to take a lesser job, then see it as something temporary and probably leave it off your resume.


 


If possible, see if you can use your time constructively whilst waiting for that better job to come along. Maybe volunteering, or taking additional qualifications, or writing a book - all of this will add to your resume, and reflect well upon you.


Above all, stay positive and live the dream!


 


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Rate This | Posted 13 days ago

 

When I was still working on my Bachelor's degree in Organizational Management, I was able to get a better position with the company I was currently working for...but the commute was 70 miles. It was a $5 an hour raise and a much better job and I jumped on it. Three and a half years later, I was making $20.76 an hour and was laid off. Now, four months later,  I have an interview Monday in Tampa for a Manager Trainee position with Hertz that pays $11 an hour. The job will be in Crystal River and mapquest says the drive will be over an hour. If offered, I'm going to jump on it.


I'm getting the same "you're overqualified" message as I've seen some of you are receiving. It's so frustrating because I have a Masters Degree in Management, but no Management experience. How can I be overqualified?

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Rate This | Posted 12 days ago

 

I received my Master's in Secondary Education in April and have actively been looking since June of this year. I have had a handful of interviews, but no job offers. I have my teaching license for 2 states and I am considered Highly qualifed because of my degree and subject testing. My dream job is to teach Biology at the high school level.  I have been told that science teachers are in high demand, but if that is so how come I haven't been offered a position?  I would just like to point out that because I am a new teacher, I lack the classroom experience. I have applied for substituting, but the counties I have applied in have a hiring freeze right now.  This may seem silly to point out, but how do future employers expect teachers to get classroom experience if they are not offered a position in the field? I know things are tough everywhere, and I am starting to feel like I did when I graduated with my B.S.. I had a hard time finding anything in my field then due to my lack of experience and as a result I ended up working at a fast food join to make ends meet. I don't have a problem working in fast food, especially because I think these are the only places that will hire anyone who has experience or not. What I have a problem with is having to settle for less. But at least its a job and I can work there until the start of the next school year. Maybe by then the economy will turn around.

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Rate This | Posted 12 days ago

 

Have you thought about tutoring? I know it's not the same as having classroom experience, but it may give you something to put on your resume to show that you were being proactive.

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Rate This | Posted 11 days ago

 

I currently live with my inlaws and work a temp job making $8.25 and hour, so I'm not real picky at this point.  I am married and have two little girls and I am currently having to live with my inlaws just to make it.  I don't have my degree yet, but I have already been able to get some good experience.  I have about a year and a half to two years experience in my feild.  I was able to get a couple of co-ops while still in school with some big companies.  The shortest drive was over 45 mins on the interstate.  At this point I'm just trying to finish school and keep my head above water.  A new car manufacturing company is in the proccess of openinga plant nearby.  I plan on trying to get in on the production floor so I can make more while still in school and then I've already got my foot in the door after graduation.  Even if they couldn't hire me into my field at least I will have a better paying perminant position with benifits.  As far degree vs experience goes, both are really needed.  I have worked for people with technical certification and no experience and also worked for people with years of experience and no technical certification.  Both situations present equally iritating situations.  Most people without experience don't think about all the aspects of what needs to happen before and after "thier part", assuming that they know how to do that.  On the other hand some who have years of experience without technical backgrounds sometimes do things wich make no sense logisticly and tend to be rather "set in there ways" or have real trouble recieving improvements or changes.  "If it aint broke don't fix it" is one hum-dinger of an irritating statement, everything changes with time, get over it.  Anyway, school certifies you it does not qualify you and visa versa.

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Rate This | Posted 9 days ago

 

I live in N.VA and worked for 4-years at an engineering firm, then when the economy hit really hard for the company I was apart of the laid-off group.  This company (like so many others) laid off those of us who'd either been there for 9-years or like me, created a position never seen before and a program that wasn't ever thought of that brought in more money (yet they still use my program but have someone else doing my job (and they're not doing it well) for less money. Because of the recession and people's greed those of us who are hard-working folks get the short end of the stick.  Then we're forced to take unemployment (which is chump-change) so we can barely make ends meet.  I was laid off 05/09 and took a job with no benefits for $12hr after 6-months all b/c I have a mortgage to pay and children to feed.  Even with a spouse's paycheck, we're getting ready to have our home foreclosed on or forced to sell (but no one is buying, and I can't sell for what my house is worth).  I completely understand what everyone is saying.  Post a resume everyday, go out to companies to provide resumes or interview and you get "over-qualified" or "you're too much of a getter-done type person that you'll be bored with this job, so we won't give it to you.  You'll end up leaving for something else because you're bored."  Companies are giving out the dumbest excuses to people.  They want cheap labor...more so free labor nowadays.  No telling when this recession/depression will end, but in the meantime people are struggling and becoming homeless...this is ridiculous.

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Rate This | Posted 8 days ago

 

I'm in the same boat. We lost our house last year. I was laid off in July and have been looking everywhere for a job. I've had friends tell me to just delete my education information on my resume. I've kind of adapted the suggestion. If the job is more advanced then what I've been doing and I don't have the experience they are asking for...I keep the education element. If the job is the same...I delete the Masters degree.


I just got back from my interview with Hertz. I've heard bad things about working from them...but it's a job and it pays real money. Plus it's a Management Trainee job so I know that I'll be able to advance with the company. I'm trying to take all the negative comments with a grain of salt. I think your job is what you make of it. The hours might be long, but I'll really be learning a lot.

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Rate This | Posted 3 days ago

 

Well I can certainly understand where you're coming from.  I graduated with a degree in Chemical Engineering.  After a year of searching and applying to over 500 jobs I managed 5 interviews.  Almost all of the interviews were within the first month of graduation before the economic downturn really set in.  I was looking for a position as a Process Engineer (normal starting salary ~65k).  I ended up sending out an email to some random chemical company nearby stating that I was just looking for experience within the industry.  I managed to snag a position as an operator ($14/hr).  There are other downsides though. Although I am very grateful for the job, my parents don't seem to understand.  I also really hate being bossed around by people with no education and only about a year of on the job training.  However, I am gaining a lot of experience within the industry, so I guess if this economy ever turns around I'll be in a good position to get a high paying job.  In the meantime my health/dental insurance starts in about 2 weeks.  Its almost sad how excited I am for my next dentist appointment.